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The following Q&A comes from attendees to the webinar The Top 5 Questions Asked of an Appraiser and How to Answer presented by Richard Hagar, SRA.
 

Editor’s Note:  The following Q&A comes from attendees to the webinar The Top 5 Questions Asked of an Appraiser and How to Answer presented by Richard Hagar, SRA. Click here to learn more about the webinar.

Can you Disclose Fees to Public? (And other questions answered.)

Question:  First of all (Richard), thank you for your valuable input.  Your knowledge is a great help to all appraisers…I hope they are paying attention!
 

What about the laws regarding whether I can disclose the fee I charge for an appraisal to a homeowner (or Realtor), when an AMC is being used by the lender to order and arrange the appraisal? I had a homeowner ask me what I charged the lender/AMC for the appraisal and I am not certain that I can discuss that issue with them, without the lender/AMC’s permission. Of course they (the lender/AMC) would rather that I didn't. I need clarification whether I can discuss with a homeowner or a Realtor.
– Steven L. Smith, Appraisals LTD.


Answer:  Federal law, together with numerous states, are allowing or requiring the disclosure of the fee paid directly to the appraiser. (Example: Virginia now REQUIRES that the fee paid to the appraiser must be inserted into the appraisal. So the Client can read the appraisal and know the fee.)  My recommendation is to place a statement about the fee directly into the appraisal. Then, you can side-step the question somewhat by having the borrower read the appraisal. In this instance, there would be no prohibited “private” information disclosure problems. - Richard Hagar, SRA

Question: Hi Richard. I took part in your webinar last week on the Top 5 Questions. Just after, I got a request to review additional comps from an AMC. I told them that it was against TILA (Truth in Lending Act) & Dodd/Frank. They sent me back:

EXCEPTIONS.—The requirements of subsection (b) shall not be construed as prohibiting a mortgage lender, mortgage broker, mortgage banker, real estate broker, appraisal management company, employee of an appraisal management company, consumer, or any other person with an interest in a real estate transaction from asking an appraiser to undertake 1 or more of the following:
‘‘(1) Consider additional, appropriate property information, including the consideration of additional comparable properties to make or support an appraisal.
‘‘(2) Provide further detail, substantiation, or explanation
for the appraiser’s value conclusion.
‘‘(3) Correct errors in the appraisal report.

How do appraisers defend against this? Is there a place in the law that clearly states that appraisers are not to be influenced? I really need your help on this because I have already tried to fight the good fight after participating in your webinar but when this quote was pointed out to me, I was stumped. It appears that the law has a huge "loop-hole" by which the AMCs can still try and influence value. Any help you can offer will be greatly appreciated.  - J. Bentley Rainwater, CREA

Answer: The text they sent you is correct and from the law. Is the fact that they sent you “comparables” an attempt at influence?  Maybe. Depends on the quality of your appraisal and the quality of their “comparables.”

One way to measure “influence” is- did the “comparables” they send all have sales prices higher than your appraised value? If they are, then it appears to be an attempt at pushing the appraiser to a higher value (influence). If, and this is a big if, what they sent are better comparables, they would likely have prices below and above your value point. Since they ALL have prices above your value and - let me guess - likely not “comparable” (shock), it appears to be an attempt at influencing the appraisal outcome – an illegal act. Comparables should bracket the subject, some higher in price, some lower, bigger and smaller, younger and older (etc.). If this is what they sent, then maybe, just maybe, they are trying to improve the quality of the appraisal.

Likely, it is someone with a financial interest in the property - hmmmmm? People are allowed to interact with the appraiser to try to help by sending information. However, it’s a razor’s edge between help and influence. Every lender and AMC is required to have written policies and procedures that outline what is allowed and what is “influence.” My suggestion is to have the lender/AMC send you a copy of their written policies and procedures regarding the additional information. And if they don’t have them, you have the option of letting their federal regulator know about the failure. 

Nicer Solution: You can give them a simple reply: “I did consider these sales in the original appraisal process. None of them were considered superior to the comparables used in the report.” Place it on your letterhead, PDF and send it back.

Now if you want to take it a step further: Analyze their sales, briefly state why they are not comparable and send a written response to the Chief Compliance Officer of the bank and tell that person: “This appears to be an attempt at influencing the outcome of the appraisal.” In brief, provide the who, what, when and where. That will get their attention and likely stop the problem in the future.

Here is a general tip: If you think something is wrong, document everything and shine light on it. Then sit back and see who scatters. These are the kinds of solutions we are providing to both sides in our webinars- appraisers and AMCs/lenders. This is why it is so important that every appraiser and AMC/lender who cares about staying in business attend these webinars. Even one mistake can be a game ender. You need to learn what to do to remain insulated and protected and what not to do, to avoid trouble. You need to do some things and there are some things you need to avoid doing. This environment is like a mine field. These webinars (recorded or live) are vital.– Richard Hagar, SRA

Question asked at
Top 5 Questions webinar: Is the pressure placed on appraiser John Dingeman considered unlawful “coercion” and therefore prohibited by any state or federal law? (John Dingeman is the appraiser featured in the story Chase Challenges USPAP who had a complaint filed against him and is blacklisted by a lender because he would not violate the confidentiality section in USPAP to discuss an appraisal with the lender- who is not the original client.)

Answer: First of all, I am not an attorney and I do not give legal advice. The ultimate decision on whether Mr. Dingeman is being coerced or not, would best be answered in a court of law. However, I will give you my opinion and provide a few definitions.

Short answer: To me, what has happened to Mr. Dingeman, and hundreds of other appraisers, sounds like coercion and a bully trying to intimidate an appraiser.

Long answer: This exact topic was covered in my webinar: How to Limit Liability, Maintain Independence, and Fight Influence. If appraisers want to learn how to stop bullies, they should take this class (offered in webinar form, recorded or live, or for CE credit if we’re in your area). 

Webster’s Definition of Coercion: 

Coercion (Noun) the practice of forcing another party to behave in an involuntary manner (whether through action or inaction) by use of threats, intimidation, trickery, pressure or force.

   Such actions are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in the desired way. Coercion may involve the actual infliction of physical pain/injury or psychological harm in order to enhance the credibility of a threat.
  The threat of further harm may lead to the cooperation or obedience of the person being coerced.

This sort of pressure, coercion and intimidation is not unique to Mr. Dingeman or the lender he is dealing with. On a daily basis I experience or hear examples of lenders and AMCs deceiving and intimidating appraisers on a wide variety of issues, the “client issue” being just one. Appraisers are certified by the states and at risk of losing their certification and paying huge, and I mean HUGE, fines if they do wrong. The people making these stupid requests have no training, no license to lose and they don’t face the same pain appraisers do if they are wrong. Appraisers are the certified professionals and the clerks at the other end of the phone are not.  The clerks at the other end, they just want what they want and don’t seem to care about regulations or the law.

The solution: Learn the laws, take my webinars, be businesslike, help your client understand what they are doing is wrong and fight back. – Richard Hagar, SRA.


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